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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:59 pm

This is an anti-dark eldar list I've just pulled together. Originally designed for tyrannic/ork horde army but should work well against any mass troop opponent.

Company Command Squad
W/ power fist & 3 flamers

Platoon Command Squad
W/ 3 flamers

Infantry Squad Eradicus
W/ flamer

Infantry Squad Exterminus
W/ flamer

Veteran Squad Annilihus
W/ 3 flamers

Chimera Transport
W/ 2 heavy flamers

Scout Sentinal Squadron (3)
W/ 3 heavy flamers

So all in all, 11 flamers and 5 heavy flamers. Fun stuff!
Any dark eldar or horde army players, feel free to tell me how you would tear this army to shreds in the first couple of turns, any feedback is appreciated.
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Post by Spiritcurse Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:29 pm

I'd hide in cover for the first part. I know what you're going to say, ignores cover. Yeah, lasguns don't. When you get within 6", I'd open fire with splinter cannons. Failing that, you don't have that much anti-tank. Raiders and the like would cause some damage.
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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:34 pm

Some good points, but it's not really the lasguns which will do the damage, it's the flamers, and heavy flamers will still be able to pen the raiders, and the company commander can fist it (if he ever catches up!) really in 500 points I was hoping no one else would have much tank for me to anti, but I guess raiders are pretty cheap now. Maybe a missile launcher battery would do the trick Smile
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Post by Spiritcurse Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:13 pm

That it would Smile I'd probably do the same as ever - sprint across the field and rip you to bits with an Archon.
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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:57 am

My only chance in combat is from a s6 power fist, and with only 4 other men in the unit his survival before striking chances are low. And heavy flamers aren't gonna be enough to take him down I don't think :S you can tell my list doesn't really take hq or elites into consideration. Out of interest, if you have a 500 point DE list drawn up from the new codex could you post it on here?
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Post by Spiritcurse Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:32 pm

Far too lazy to use the new codex. I got scans months ago, as most of /tg/ did, didn't like them enough.
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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:07 pm

Fair do's, so you stick with the DE you've got or do you play another race too?
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Post by Spiritcurse Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:59 am

I don't play 40k so much any more (read: never) - last game I had was ages ago, and even then it was planned rather than spontaneous. Basically, I started looking at other rule systems and couldn't find a single point that 40k won on convincingly. I like skirmish games, and I like mass blocks of troops. For blocks, I have Bladecaster, which is pretty much finished (well, four races are), for skirmish, I have infinity.

Couple of changes I'd make to 40k that would get me back into playing, is that I'd bring back cityfight, make sure the rules for jumping and climbing were actually good, and allow teams of 20 odd a side. I'd also make snipers good again. Basically, a decent team based cityfighting game. Because I love them. But even then, I'd think "infinity's system is just as good as this improvement, less expensive (per army, not per model), and the fluff is less retarded."

But yeah, I got some DH and Guard too.
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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:57 pm

Fair enough! I know what you mean, but my response was to make my own fluff up (more expensive solution than swapping to infinity I'm sure)
If your guard are in good condition and you don't need them anymore, would you fancy selling them? I'd happily take them off your hands!
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Post by comingdarkness Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:03 pm

I'm asuming that this is what I can expect to face against...
Yer, youve allready won that game then Smile
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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:32 pm

Well I don't know how i'd take the carnifex, but those tarot cards are getting more accurate (or you are good at research!) still fancy the game or shall I bring the marines instead?
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Post by comingdarkness Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:34 pm

Bit of both...
But yer, I like seeing if i can beat the odds so bring the guard Smile Unless marines are better for yo of course
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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:36 pm

I'm happy either way! Maybe marines as then you don't know the list point for point (my fault for posting it!) how many points is your list btw?
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Post by comingdarkness Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:41 pm

working it out as we type Smile
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Post by comingdarkness Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:48 pm

K, just worked it out and I made it to exactly 500p...I have no HQ however (model) so is it ok if I ignore that rule?
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Post by Spiritcurse Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:36 pm

I'll sell some guard, sure. Probably at a small amount below cost. They're secondhand, of course, but I paid through the nose to get them painted. They are cool though. Please at least leave some in the colours they are, maybe as a penal legion? Got a shadowsword which I may or may not sell.
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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:14 pm

comingdarkness wrote:K, just worked it out and I made it to exactly 500p...I have no HQ however (model) so is it ok if I ignore that rule?
Ooh, go on then! I'll put some marines together, sans hq so it's fairer!

And Adam that's cool, whatever you are happy to sell. Just gimmie a list and I'll tell you what I'm interested in Smile
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Post by Spiritcurse Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:28 pm

I'll work it out in the near future for you. Smile
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Post by Disposable-hero Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:59 pm

the shadowsword has a baddass paintjob Very Happy
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Post by Lone_Pathfinder Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:56 pm

Thanks Adam Smile
And hi disposable hero Very Happy I levelled up TIMMEHHH!! whatever that means Razz
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