Legions' pack

blood claws and grey hunters. Blood claws are essentially new initiates who are thrown into the ranks to get killed. Grey hunters are more trained and can carry a boltgun chainsword and bolter all at the same time. ^^ plus 1+ attack. While blood claws cannot wield boltguns.

Are Grey Hunters many more points than normal marines?

A grey hunter is 15 points as is a blood claw no idea what a normal space marine is

Hang on, they are the same point value? Therefore Grey Hunters are the equivalent of marines and are the standard troop choice in a SW army, blood claws are just buffed scouts.

Well I guess so its unusual grey hunters are the ranged troop who can kick ass in combat and blood claws are the charge straight into the jaws of death troop. Scouts are good at it all

Then why take the blood claws? If Grey Hunters are better? You said Grey Hunters are good at shooting and combat, why use blood claws if they can only do combat?

Blood claws have larger squad capacity (max 15) and get 2+ attacks on a charge

Mehr, still, you'd take Grey Hunters as standard, or at least use more in an army than Blood Claws, therefore I'd be inclined to say Grey Hunters are the standard troop

Right, so we've established that spess marines are the standard troops choice, not spess scouts. Did that really take that long? Jesus...

Yeah and scouts are elites in the wolf codex so don't know how you could confuse them with standard troops...

O_o We meant Blood Claws! They are the Wolf equivalent of scouts.....

chaos needs some scouts...
infact... chaos needs all the space marine shiz but chaos it up.

chaos whirlwind please?

Can has Chaos Sternguard?

Give chaos all the marine stuff, and you become nothing more than a stylized chapter. As it is, you're still too similar for my liking. As far as I care, if it has power armour on standard troops, it's faggish. Including GKs, but your standard troops there actually cost nearly as much as a DE HQ choice.

Orks and Daemons for the win.

Use the adversaries rules in the GK codex. Have orks and demons, it lets you.

Rahahaha!

Really. I'm thinking of using it to have Slanneshi demons with my dark eldar. Ought to be a laugh. Of course, not buying anything from GW until they give me a new codex.

Grey Knights and Blood Angels

Hmm, thought about it once, but figured it'd be too expensive for the minor good it would do. Plus, Blood Angels are spess mareens, GKs are just dangerously close.

Grey Knights and Deathstrikes.

Fuck. Yes. Gonna do it, take an IG army with GKs as allies. Legal? Yes. Fair? No.